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Local residents clash over VP debate outcome



By Lucretia Cardenas
Updated: 10.03.08
Local reaction to Thursday night’s vice presidential debate was distinctly split down party lines, with Democrats calling Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin “scripted” and Republicans saying Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware was “confusing.”

Biden and Palin sparred over foreign policy, the economy and energy during the much-anticipated debate held at Washington University in St. Louis, Mo.

Palin, who has been governor less than two years, was under intense pressure to demonstrate a strong grasp of the issues. Polls show the public has become increasingly skeptical of her readiness for national office.

Republican Adrea Dotavio of Montgomery, said Palin proved she is well versed in the issues, “even more so than most people thought.”


But Democrat Kimberly Parrish, also of Montgomery, said she was insulted as a woman by Palin’s performance, saying the governor hasn’t convinced voters she can lead.

Conroe Democrat Mary Kosmitis said Palin looked coached on what she said, but Republican Mario Rosales of Magnolia said Palin proved her ability to act on an executive level.

“We definitely saw a Sarah Palin that everyone would be happy to have as a vice president,” Rosales said.

But Democrat Karen Moeck of The Woodlands feels Biden made a stronger appearance by using solid, fact-backed points when Palin continued to avoid questions she knew little about and focused on the topic of energy instead.

“After listening to George Bush say ‘nuclear’ for eight years, I can’t take Sarah Palin saying ‘nuclear’ for the next four,” Moeck said.

Republican Jennifer Swinchatt of Spring, said she thought both candidates appeared “pretty even,” but she was confused about Biden’s answer concerning gay marriage. While he said he and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama believe in equal opportunity, they do not support gay marriage.

The exchange over Iraq was easily the most personal. Both Biden and Palin have sons in the National Guard; Biden’s son is scheduled to fly to Iraq today and Palin’s son is already serving there.

Biden scathingly criticized John McCain’s position on the Iraq war, calling him the “odd man out” for his refusal to accept a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops. But Palin countered that a timetable was tantamount to “a white flag of surrender in Iraq” at a moment when victory was “within sight.”

They also clashed over energy policy when Palin said Obama’s vote for a Bush administration-backed bill granted breaks to the oil industry. By contrast, she said that as governor, she had stood up to the same industry, and noted that McCain had voted against the bill Obama supported.

Biden said that in the past decade, McCain had voted “20 times against funding alternative energy sources and thinks, I guess, the only answer is drill, drill, drill.”

“The chant is, ‘drill, baby, drill,’” Palin countered quickly, unwilling to yield to Biden on that issue.

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Reader Comments

Whiskyecho wrote on Oct 3, 2008 6:33 AM:

" My mind was already made up as to which ticket I'll vote AGAINST - so, I didn't watch.

I did however record it at the request of my Wife (who's out of town for a couple of days) - we'll watch the recording together tomorrow night. "

Big Jon wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:09 AM:

" Obama favors yet another amnesty for the uncounted millions of criminal illegal aliens in this country who are sucking us dry with welfare and anchor babies. Obama fail to realize that this country is bankrupt, thanks to the socialists of both parties who have been stealing from future generations with deficit spending, welfare, more federal giveaways, foreign aid, no-win wars, government bail-outs, etc.

The real issue is not whether Obama or or McCain will make a better president. Both belong to the Puppet Masters. On one side you have an Islamo-Marxist. On the other side you have a very questionable "war hero" with a lot of baggage, an ego bigger than California, a temper like Mt. Vesuvius, and a lot of IOU's to the Global Monopolists - that's the brand of socialism where Big Business is in bed with Big Government, often defined as Fascism. All those systems, and candidates, are Socialists of one stripe or another. "

nicoleshelby wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:30 AM:

" I don't understand how anyone could vote for a candidate that has monopolized everything. Obama owns the media, has control of all the media venues, campaign offices everywhere, has support of world leaders, including the most dangerous, he has spent the most money ever on a campaign, we don't know where his BILLIONS came from, and the list goes on. His change has never clearly been defined. He is vague on change. His change is just an idea, a dream, not tangible. The market industry is the same way. The very reason we are in this boat and sinking in America. Obama is a walking WALL STREET. He represents the very "material" problem in America. Look at the monopolies: Oil companies, pharmaceutical industry, morgage companies, electic companies, and so on. Obama's campaign is a walking and talking monopoly. He is controlling the "presidential market." Too me, that is how corruption works. American's are voting that our economy is the worst issue, yet they vote Obama to fix it. Fear runs from one extreme to the next. When will people get it. It is completely illogical too me!!! Wall Street is a monopoly. Obama is playing the game of MONOPOLY. That is the most defining description of corruption, is it not? McCain is no angel, but he is the lesser of the evils. Sad to see so many American's not looking at the big picture, but focusing on charisma, alone.

Never Obama. Infinity NO!!! "

hdad wrote on Oct 3, 2008 12:38 PM:

" This is starting to get worrisome when folks who should have attended high school and at least gotten an introduction to civics and American history begin to make public utterances like some of these.

BJ's almost to be pitied for his retreat into racist bigotry blaming our problems on some of the most victimized because of his demonstrated inability to comprehend the political and economic philosophies behind the labels he bandies about.

But the next is just a flat out scary paranoid recitation of unfounded distortions and a truly stunning display of fallacious reasoning. Obviously one of the presidential candidates is Satan walking the Earth in her mind, despite the reality that no political candidate could do half of what she is claiming Obama is doing even if he wanted to.

It certainly is possible to disagree with candidates' positions without going overboard impugning their basic decency, and all of the folks in this political campaign seem basically to be pretty decent and concerned individuals with not atypical human shortcomings. "

npdandk wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:22 PM:

" I enjoyed watching Gov.Palin last night,she was very much in control and uncoached.She got to the middle class where Lyin Joe Biden didn't know where the truth began and where the lies had stoppoed,I believe he misqouted 16 times and just flat out lied 6 times,say it aint so Joe!!!!!!!! "

hdad wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:27 PM:

" Hardly uncoached, although she did manage to keep pretty tightly to her prepared response notes with the exception of dealing with her own and the McCain campaign position on full equality of legal rights for committed same-sex couples. She did manage the switch from "support" in the question to "tolerate" in her answers reasonably adroitly. All in all she stayed in focus during the debate. Perhaps its the structured setting that helps her keep her bearings, but she did well none the less. "

Boadicea wrote on Oct 3, 2008 3:09 PM:

" Be honest...the candidates have probably added to the global warming problem with all of their rantings about change, energy, defense, and so on. I have to laugh when I read this in the article..."she was insulted as a woman by Palin’s performance"...is that all it takes??? Obama had made the statement the Palin is "one heartbeat" away from the Presidency...true...however do you know who is CURRENTLY "two heartbeats" away from that office??? Here's a clue...she's a real nut job. "

hdad wrote on Oct 3, 2008 4:22 PM:

" Don't disagree. Makes it really important not to have nut jobs in both the No. 2 and No. 3 spots doesn't it? Especially not when they appear to be incompatible nut varieties. "

Big Jon wrote on Oct 3, 2008 5:02 PM:

" Carroll Quigley, in his book, "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time", says about the two-party system and its one plan for control of the population: "Hopefully, the elements of choice and freedom may survive for the ordinary individual in that he may be free to make a choice between two opposing political groups (even if these groups have little policy choice within the parameters of policy established by the experts) and he may have the choice to switch his economic support from one large unit to another. But, in general, his freedom and choice will be controlled within the very narrow alternatives by the fact that he will be numbered from birth and followed, as a number, through his educational training, his required military or other public service, his tax contributions, his health and medical requirements, and his final retirement and death benefits."

So why the scam? Why the illusion?

"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers," he wrote. "Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy."

Think about do we really want to continue to vote for the best of two evils? "

MCO Resident wrote on Oct 3, 2008 5:15 PM:

" Palin will add a much needed breath of fresh air to Washington. Please do a little research on the founders/organizers of the teachings and real beleifs that Obama represents prior to voting. I have, and will vote for McCain/Palin in effort to block socialism in this country. Check out Obama's community organization's background, must of its organizers/founders/leaders are socialists. Stalin predicted it many years ago when he said the USA could be defeated from within. Wake up, we are here. "

eljesjr wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:49 PM:

" I feel this country really needs to dig deep and look at all aspects completely. This country will have a rough road ahead if the wrong candidate is chosen. Everything happens for a reason and whatever this country will have to face ahead was meant to be. All we can really do is have faith and believe that everything works in favor of One. "

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